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Old 4 Feb 2005, 17:27 (Ref:1217557)   #1
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f1_carzy should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Testing Times 04 Feb 05
MS is back on form (of course on F2004)

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=23436
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 17:28 (Ref:1217558)   #2
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Yes, best to stress Schumacher was in an 04 car before getting carried away.
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 18:16 (Ref:1217589)   #3
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Interesting to see how the teams are now doing more laps and (presumably) longer runs in preparation for Melbourne.
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 18:38 (Ref:1217602)   #4
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Pos. Driver Team Time Laps
1 M. Schumacher Ferrari 01:10:209 121
2 J. Button BAR 01:10:599 120
3 R. Barrichello Ferrari 01:10:601 100
4 N. Heidfeld Williams 01:10:748 90
5 J. Trulli Toyota 01:10:814 100
6 M. Webber Williams 01:11:049 89
7 R. Schumacher Toyota 01:11:635 88
8 R. Zonta Toyota 01:11:841 13
9 E. Bernoldi BAR 01:12:298 29
10 A. Carroll BAR 01:12:582 24
11 A. van der Merwe BAR 01:13:112 53

http://www.f1racing.net/en/testresults.php?testID=248

According to the report Schumacher was in the Ferrari F2004M.


Meanwhile, Minardi were out at Misano.

Pos. Driver Team Time Laps
1 C. Albers Minardi 01:14:270 57
2 N. Kiesa Minardi 01:20:400 10
3 C. Nissany Minardi 01:25:380 6

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Old 4 Feb 2005, 18:40 (Ref:1217603)   #5
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Nice to see the Bar's on pace and Nick as well....
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 18:40 (Ref:1217604)   #6
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Yes, best to stress Schumacher was in an 04 car before getting carried away.

Quick, tell Rennen, after all, anyone (according to a previous post of his) using a 2004 car for testing as opposed to a 2005 car has missed the boat, thats it, Ferrari haven't got a prayer this season
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 18:56 (Ref:1217614)   #7
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Contrasting reports - Autosport are saying MS was in the 2004 car, F1 Racing say the F2004M!
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 19:01 (Ref:1217615)   #8
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I've seen the pictures, he was definitely in a 2004-spec car.
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 19:19 (Ref:1217631)   #9
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what was barrichello driving then, 04 or 05 spec?
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 19:22 (Ref:1217635)   #10
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Barrichello was in the 2004M, which is Ferrari's interim 2005 spec car.
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 19:24 (Ref:1217636)   #11
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So then is 4-tenths...all theyve lost between the 04 and 05 specs?
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 19:32 (Ref:1217638)   #12
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yes the pace of development is staggering sometimes isn't it.
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 19:59 (Ref:1217659)   #13
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nice to see heidfeld being faster than the highy rated webber!! go nick!!

why on earth did they choose nissany? 10 seconds slower than albers!! thats worse than giovanni lavaggi

whats happend to keisa pace?
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 20:18 (Ref:1217673)   #14
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nice to see heidfeld being faster than the highy rated webber!! go nick!!

why on earth did they choose nissany? 10 seconds slower than albers!! thats worse than giovanni lavaggi

whats happend to keisa pace?

Ahhh! Giovanni Lavaggi. Now he was a racer.......................
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 20:48 (Ref:1217714)   #15
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If you look at the Minardi laps, you'll find that only Albers did any serious running.

You don't seriously think Kiesa is 6s a lap slower and Nissany 10s do you?
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 20:50 (Ref:1217717)   #16
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Indeed. Kiesa is rubbish but not that rubbish.
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 20:56 (Ref:1217730)   #17
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Kiesa's not rubbish.

He's not top drawer, but he's an F3 and F3000 race-winner and I expect he'll have an edge over Albers on pace.
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 20:58 (Ref:1217735)   #18
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Hmmm....2003 evidence suggests otherwise.
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 21:03 (Ref:1217745)   #19
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Yeah I watched Kiesa in the Formula Vauxhall championship I think in 1998 or maybe 1999, his name was always at the top of the timesheets.
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 21:05 (Ref:1217749)   #20
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Hmmm....2003 evidence suggests otherwise.

Where he did 5 races with no F1 experience, no testing, no track knowledge in most cases, at a team on a budget where he couldn't really push for fear of damaging the car?


I know the modern world is all about writing people off immediately, but to call him rubbish on the basis of that is very unfair.
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 21:08 (Ref:1217753)   #21
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Yes, but Formula Vauxhall isn't quite F1 standard is it?

Look at his performances in the Minardi in 2003. Awful, often miles off Verstappen!

He looked out of his depth. But he came out with the usual "I'm learning", "I'm new", "I'm just looking to be solid" ****.

If he set out with a positive "I'd like to impress prospective team owners" then maybe he would've done better.
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 21:21 (Ref:1217761)   #22
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keisa is fast we know that, he raced f3000 and was no slouch! keisa has potential

as for nissany he should not even be in f1 being 10 seconds slow..

wasnt he like 20 seconds slower in the jordan? lol look at drivers like rossiter, just out of f3 and the are within 3-4 seconds of the fastest guy...
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Old 4 Feb 2005, 21:28 (Ref:1217765)   #23
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Nissany is not 10s a lap off, he's done tests before where he is about 3 seconds away.

He is not "in F1" - he is merely living his dream of driving the cars.
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