Minardi test!

**Adam43** · 28 Apr 2005, 19:33 (Ref:1289614)

for a second day!

They must have notched up dozens of laps by now! The team say hey have had a good day. Will this bring them closer (or ahead) of Jordan? The car hardly had any testing before Imola.

The testing was at Mugello:

Quote:

Originally Posted by F1live.com

Albers completed 66 laps with a best time of 1:24.380s with Friesacher recording a best of 1:25.721s from his 47 laps. Chanoch Nissany completed 16 laps with a best of 1:39.540s.

http://f1.racing-live.com/en/headlin...28210553.shtml

Marbot · 28 Apr 2005, 19:39 (Ref:1289619)

They must have worn out at least one set of tyres by now.

Alfaholic · 28 Apr 2005, 20:02 (Ref:1289641)

Not all of the Minardi testing was usefull though......

Quote:

Minardi had an embarrassing start to their week's testing programme at Mugello in Italy on Wednesday when two of their cars managed to collide with each other.

Although the specific details of how the accident happened are not known yet, Christijan Albers in the new PS05 and test driver Chanoch Nissany in one of last year's PS04B cars managed to run into each other at the Bucine Curve, the final corner before the start-finish straight.

A team spokesman confirmed that both cars were slightly damaged in the crash, although neither driver was hurt.

From Autosport-Atlas http://www.autosport-atlas.com/news.aspx?id=43775&s=5

**Adam43** · 28 Apr 2005, 20:10 (Ref:1289647)

Whoops! I bet there were some sheepish looks after that!

Knowlesy · 28 Apr 2005, 20:30 (Ref:1289661)

The team explanation: "one of them zigged, when he should have zagged"!

Minardi testing is something amazing....they had only done something like 123 miles of testing altogether this season. A startling figure, really.

pirenzo · 28 Apr 2005, 20:40 (Ref:1289667)

Isn't that 1:24 2 seconds faster than they managed in the shake down?
How much of that is work done at Mugello, since the San Marino grandprix I wonder? It might all just be from what they learnt there in which case there'll be little improvement next time out.

Knowlesy · 28 Apr 2005, 20:45 (Ref:1289671)

Nissany apparently was working on chassis set up mainly. What I don't understand is, having lapped 14-15 seconds off the "pace", what use will any data gleaned from his car be?

Or was he actually just running a systems check on how well the starter works?

ttc · 28 Apr 2005, 23:56 (Ref:1289765)

I wonder how much the 30 days testing limit will save them. I mean, it's to help teams like Minardi save money, right?

Anyone care to give an estimate on how much they would have save as compared to without the 30 days limit this year?

supermagnet · 29 Apr 2005, 00:01 (Ref:1289767)

I would think that they save no money, since they probably don't have the money to test more than 30 days anyway.

BTW, I'd really like to see some video of Nissany crawling around the circuit.

Marbot · 29 Apr 2005, 00:36 (Ref:1289785)

Maybe Nissany is doing a cost effective programme.Maybe it's more cost effective to be lapped 8 times rather than just the usual 4.Think of all the extra TV coverage.

Nicholosophy · 29 Apr 2005, 03:13 (Ref:1289826)

It's all nice of you to sit back and heap it onto Nissany, but probably the only reason all three of the cars were able to test today is because of the money he is bringing to the Minardi team so he can 'live the dream' and test a Formula 1 car.

I think it was unfortunate, and he would be embarrased, by running into Albers on day one, but I think Paul is happy enough that he's getting good money just to let him drive around in one of the old cars.

It might be better if the team had a good, up and coming driver as a tester, but remember that Miniardi does have two up and coming drivers in their team - they are the two main drivers...

JohnSSC · 29 Apr 2005, 04:13 (Ref:1289837)

Well, I for one am on the edge of my seat now knowing that yet another Test of the New Radical Minardi is being carried out with the machine-like precision of the Minardi Race Team (we can only hope that the procedures followed bear little resemblance to those used in the powered flight industry which the Team is closely associated with).

While I understand the $$ Nissany brings are very much needed, one wonders how useful the data they are gleaning from his driving is? Perhaps now they have discovered a key to unlocking the Secrets of the Ultimate Post-Qualifying Cool- Down Lap! Perhaps they are working on a Top Secret Zig Zag Control that will ensure an end to those embarassing mishaps with one of your cars At Speed and the other Not. That accident says more about Albers than Nissany, imho.

Can't wait till Spain to see this all pay off with the Radical New Minardi a mere 7 seconds off the pace.

Joy.

ttc · 29 Apr 2005, 07:17 (Ref:1289888)

My guess will be an attempt to inflate the cost of testing... hence from next year on, to further keep cost down for teams like Minardi that can ill afford to have their cars running into each other during testing, testing will thus be limited to 1day at Monaco where the filthy rich can PAY premiums to watch the once a year ultimate event of F1 GP, F1 TESTING!

Gt_R · 29 Apr 2005, 09:53 (Ref:1289989)

Maybe nissany is just testing how the car works at pit-lane speed limit...

The 30 day limit isnt likely to save Minardi half a cent.

it's good to see Minardi doing testings. I think everyone, fans or not, are tired of seeing a team struggle to even put together a go-kart every year, and would love to see every team getting competitive. With the likes of Jordan and Red Bull having decent backers to push them with a neat bag of cash, it's inevitable that Minardi has to find ways to up their own game.

Ryo28 · 29 Apr 2005, 09:57 (Ref:1289993)

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowlesy

Nissany apparently was working on chassis set up mainly. What I don't understand is, having lapped 14-15 seconds off the "pace", what use will any data gleaned from his car be?

It shows that the new Minardi is clearly 15 secs a lap faster than the old one...

CHRISTIJAN ALBERS (PS05)
Best lap: 1 min 24.380 secs

CHANOCH NISSANY (PS04B)
Best lap: 1 min 39.510 secs

What an amazing leap in performance!

BootsOntheSide · 29 Apr 2005, 10:43 (Ref:1290026)

Grow up John. Minardi do an amazing job with the money they have, and don't deserve ridiculing. Even Ron Dennis has admitted that they are more efficient than his team, despite their lack of obviously-talented individuals. There's every chance they can get some decent speed out of the car, and if they can get to the finish and others can't, who knows?

Knowlesy · 29 Apr 2005, 14:46 (Ref:1290166)

As cynical as John worded his post (

), he speaks largely the truth!

gfm · 29 Apr 2005, 20:54 (Ref:1290352)

Does this mean on top of everything else, the Minardi drivers are dyslectic?
(Did they both zig at the same time then?)

JeremySmith · 29 Apr 2005, 21:18 (Ref:1290366)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnSSC

Well, I for one am on the edge of my seat now knowing that yet another Test of the New Radical Minardi is being carried out with the machine-like precision of the Minardi Race Team (we can only hope that the procedures followed bear little resemblance to those used in the powered flight industry which the Team is closely associated with).

While I understand the $$ Nissany brings are very much needed, one wonders how useful the data they are gleaning from his driving is? Perhaps now they have discovered a key to unlocking the Secrets of the Ultimate Post-Qualifying Cool- Down Lap! Perhaps they are working on a Top Secret Zig Zag Control that will ensure an end to those embarassing mishaps with one of your cars At Speed and the other Not. That accident says more about Albers than Nissany, imho.

Can't wait till Spain to see this all pay off with the Radical New Minardi a mere 7 seconds off the pace.

Joy.

They are trying hard and have to be commeded for that

joe rossi · 29 Apr 2005, 22:14 (Ref:1290387)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gfm

Does this mean on top of everything else, the Minardi drivers are dyslectic?
(Did they both zig at the same time then?)

Do you mean dyslexic?..maybe you are!

JohnSSC · 30 Apr 2005, 02:28 (Ref:1290443)

Grow up? Is that the best anyone can do as a rebuttal?? Besides, if I haven't done so in 47 years I sure am not going to bother with it now since I am past the halfway point!

Minardi are essentially the plucky comic relief of F1. If F1 had relegation (now there is an idea) they would be in League One right now.

The shame of it is that some of these guys are trying hard but do not have the resources to make a proper go of it.

To me at least it is still rather sad and ridiculous that this Team is allowed to wobble about as they are. At some point you have to wake up and smell the coffee.

grandprixdiary · 30 Apr 2005, 08:27 (Ref:1290515)

I know there is an element out there who say, 'we love Minardi', 'they are the fun side of F1'. I used to think the same, and yes, what they do with the money is amazing. Perhaps they should spend it on GP2 or A1GP and then they would start to win there. Nobody would be happier than me to see them do well, but after 20 years of constant failure - well, its not going to happen is it. Charlie Kennedy will be PM before Minardi win a race. Sadly, Minardi are now just an embarrassment. Calling Nissany a test driver is insulting our intelligence. He is hiring the PS04B for his own fun (and best of luck to him I guess) and then telling us that the Chinese driver Marchy Lee Ying King Ping (whatever his name is) could not test at Mugello due to 'logistical problems' is a joke - he just didn't have the money. Mind you, perhaps it was a good thing, imagine the damage he and Nissany could do together....!

Rob

Logrence · 3 May 2005, 14:43 (Ref:1292061)

Well I think Minardi are rubbish, but that's precisely why they are still in F1 - a buffer zone for larger egos.

As for people who go on about the money - their budget is over 30 million pounds for crying out loud, it's not like trying to cure cancer with two drinking straws, some blu-tac and a roll of sticky-back plastic. Saying that they do well for the money is ridiculous as well - this is F1, and Minardi come last at every race.

Snrub · 3 May 2005, 16:59 (Ref:1292161)

I said this back when Nissany was announced, but why would he just buy an old Ferrari and drive around a track. The F2002 is forsale now and the F2003 should be soon. He'd get much better bang for his buck.

Kicking-back · 3 May 2005, 17:41 (Ref:1292180)

Because he'd need a team of people to run it - may as well go into a set up.

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