V8 Supercar 24hr Race?

adz_34 · 18 Jul 2005, 12:20 (Ref:1357711)

how many of us out there would like to see a 24hr or 12hr race involving V8 Supercars, and where should it be held?

Hazza · 18 Jul 2005, 12:53 (Ref:1357748)

I would.

And Eastern Creek.

Average Punter · 18 Jul 2005, 13:01 (Ref:1357759)

Not for me...

Imagine 23 hours of Cromley reminding us how you "have to buy a ticket to the end game..."

I get a little frustrated with the "stay on the lead lap" cruising that even affects the Bathurst 1000 these days. 3500km would be even worse!

bathurst77 · 18 Jul 2005, 13:06 (Ref:1357762)

I think V8SC needs a real "Enduro".

In the 70s and early 80s Bathurst was an endurance race, these days it seems to be a long sprint, really. The cars are built differently now; 1000km is not THAT tough, and with the pace cars and the modern track and modern training regimes, i dont think the drivers find it that hard either.

So maybe 12 or 24 hours with 3 drivers would be something. But what tv network would show a 24 race? ALL of it? And with no TV wheres the sponsor $$ for the event as well as the teams?

The ONLY way you could get media/sponsor interest is if it was at Bathurst, and we cant have two bathurst enduros, sooooo we are back to the old chestnut that cops up once everyfew years since the late 70s at least, and thats replace the 1000 witha 12/24 hour race.

I think the 1000 could be stretched to 12 hours easily, especially on the October long weekend, and still get tv and sponsors and spectators etc, but 24 might be too much, too soon.

Please not Eastern Creek, that place is like a sterile test lab, no atmosphere or "mystique". TheJames Hardie 12 hr died quickly once it was moved to the creek

mabs_nsx · 18 Jul 2005, 13:51 (Ref:1357791)

Bunbury 24 hour

I would definatly go to the race. I would watch the whole race from start to finish.

FPV GTHO · 18 Jul 2005, 13:59 (Ref:1357796)

Cant be Sandown or Bathurst, maybe at Adelaide, QLD Raceway, Oran Park might go alright, just not one of these country tracks like Barbagallo, Pukekohe or Symmons Plains.

The idea of compulsory engine and transmission changes would be interesting though.

browney · 18 Jul 2005, 14:00 (Ref:1357797)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Average Punter

Imagine 23 hours of Cromley reminding us how you "have to buy a ticket to the end game..."

That is very very funny

........

That said, I think it would be great to do it. It would be lots of hype for the series (even internationally) and it would provide an interesting challenge. I think it would interest drivers from overseas to come and have a go too.

Raglanparade · 18 Jul 2005, 14:57 (Ref:1357833)

Compulsory engine and transmission change ?

Why not try and make an engine that lasts 24 hours with 6 days of testing !!

Gaz170 · 18 Jul 2005, 20:50 (Ref:1358064)

I'm not really in favour of it for the V8s. I liked the old Bathurst 24 hour, but it was ruined when they allowed the super monaros.

laser · 18 Jul 2005, 21:18 (Ref:1358091)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaz170

I'm not really in favour of it for the V8s. I liked the old Bathurst 24 hour, but it was ruined when they allowed the super monaros.

The "old" race had Super Monaros win in both years didn't it ?

racer69 · 19 Jul 2005, 00:03 (Ref:1358196)

One of the interesting facets of long endurance racing is the various class battles and so on, and in a V8Supercar race you just wouldn't get that.

Their stretching it with a one-class senario at the 1000, anything more would be a mistake.

stmookeyj033 · 19 Jul 2005, 04:47 (Ref:1358266)

What I would have is

-44 Cars face the starter (10 from Dev.Series along with the 34 currently in the main game),
-start at 4PM on the Saturday (Le Mans start time I believe) with a 4PM Sunday finish
-have 3 driver minimum per car, 4 maximum
-Coverage on Ten for the start, the finish and the overnight session. The rest either on BigPond or on a digital Pay TV Channel (Main Event?)
-NON CHAMPIONSHIP ROUND

mabs_nsx · 19 Jul 2005, 05:55 (Ref:1358286)

Race Time (Bathurst 24 hour)
Saturday 16/12/2006-Sunday 17/12/2006 (4:00pm-4:00pm)

TV Time
3:30-5:00 24 Hour Race (4:00-5:00)
5:00-5:30 News
5:30-6:00 Sports Tonight
6:00-10:30 24 Hour Race (6:00-10:30)
10:30-11:00 News
11:00-11:30 Sports Tonight
11:30-4:30 (11:30-4:00)

Race Time (Bunbury 24 hour)
Saturday 11/11/2006-Sunday 12/11/2006 (4:00pm-4:00pm)

TV Time
3:30-5:00 24 Hour Race (4:00-5:00)
5:00-5:30 News
5:30-6:00 Sports Tonight
6:00-10:30 24 Hour Race (6:00-10:30)
10:30-11:00 News
11:00-11:30 Sports Tonight
11:30-4:30 (11:30-4:00)

mabs_nsx · 19 Jul 2005, 06:09 (Ref:1358289)

TV Time (Live in every state including WA)
1:30-5:00 24 Hour Race (4:00-7:00)
5:00-5:30 News
5:30-6:00 Sports Tonight
6:00-10:30 24 Hour Race (8:00-12:30)
10:30-11:00 News
11:00-11:30 Sports Tonight
11:30-4:30 (1:30-4:00)

Race Time (Bunbury 24 hour)
Saturday 11/11/2006-Sunday 12/11/2006 (4:00pm-4:00pm)

TV Time (Live in every state including WA)
3:30-5:00 24 Hour Race (4:00-5:00)
5:00-5:30 News
5:30-6:00 Sports Tonight
6:00-10:30 24 Hour Race (6:00-10:30)
10:30-11:00 News
11:00-11:30 Sports Tonight
11:30-4:30 (11:30-4:00)

I am going by my time

mabs_nsx · 19 Jul 2005, 06:26 (Ref:1358294)

TV Time (Bathurst 24 hour)
11:30-2:30 (1:30-4:00)

FPV GTHO · 19 Jul 2005, 07:14 (Ref:1358322)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonhill9884

Compulsory engine and transmission change ?

Why not try and make an engine that lasts 24 hours with 6 days of testing !!

Wouldnt the extra development and costs associated with it just increase the performance difference between the good and bad teams. They'd already need a gearbox change, so it wouldnt be much harder to accomodate an engine swap

milktruck racin · 19 Jul 2005, 07:28 (Ref:1358328)

not only would the costs blow out as you would have teams trying for ther sponers to run on a shoe string budget, but you would have only a couple of teams racing away for a boring 24hour race

Jacal · 19 Jul 2005, 07:39 (Ref:1358337)

Just take the Monaro's to Le Mans

Falcadore · 19 Jul 2005, 10:07 (Ref:1358440)

The Super Monaros aren't Le Mans legal.

AVESCO would never go for a 24 Hour race.

Right from the start AVESCO's priority has been, and rightly so, to promote the championship. Why have an event part of a year long series if people only watch once a year? AVESCO had to get more people watching every event.

So, from AVESCO's perspective, the relative status of Bathurst had to be brought back to the field. Hopefully the other events could be lifted to Bathursts standard, rather than the other way around. Remember 'No Sacred Cows'?

Extending the 1000 to 24 hours does the opposite of what AVESCO needs to do. It further individualises the Mount Panorama event at the cost of the others. You would be encouraging people back towards being once a year V8 fans instead of 14 times a year V8 fans.

24 hour? Yes absolutely. But not for V8Supercar. If we are going to be adventurous with the format, then let's be adventurous with the content too.

D.R.T. · 19 Jul 2005, 10:15 (Ref:1358444)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falcadore

24 hour? Yes absolutely. But not for V8Supercar.

I agree. The beauty of the 24 hour in 2002 - 2003 was that it gave other classes in Aus the opportunity to race around one of the best tracks in the world and step into a bit of limelight that is not given to these classes in Australia.

Mattracer · 19 Jul 2005, 10:39 (Ref:1358467)

In another direction, instead of OS races at lacklustre circuits with great facilities, why not a a 24 hr race at Spa and Bathurst? With two 24hr races, the emphasis is not solely on Bathurst, the Championship still maintains its importance and another world class circuit like Spa is raced on by the V8 series. Win. win win situation.

peckstar · 19 Jul 2005, 11:10 (Ref:1358481)

i love the sound of the Winton 24 hour race. not a high speed track so less stress on equipment

Falcadore · 19 Jul 2005, 11:43 (Ref:1358501)

The driver's don't. May as well have a 24 Hour of Queensland Raceway.

What do all the existing 24 hour circuits have in common? Spa, Nurburgring, Le Mans, Daytona, it reads like a who's who of fabled circuits.

24 Hour races need a sense of scale, of granduer even. Winton has none of the charisma required to pull it off.

Razor · 19 Jul 2005, 12:01 (Ref:1358525)

Or what about a 24 hr race at Phillp Island?

peckstar · 19 Jul 2005, 12:02 (Ref:1358529)

that because the drivers hate to race each other and like playing follow the leader

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