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Old 17 May 2006, 12:16 (Ref:1612517)   #1
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What are the requirements to host a race?

Hey all,

I recieved an email from a gentleman in Poland. He says his writing a thesis on Formula One circuits. He says "that every circuit has to be classified as a Grade 1 circuit by FIA to be allowed to organize Formula One Races... (for example width of lanes, required radius of curves, required extraelevations, necessary safety devices, etc.)".

I 'think' I remember pirenzo posting something once, but I don't think it was it. Does anyone know where you could get this information from?

It would be greatly appreciated as I would be interested in this as well.


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Old 17 May 2006, 12:34 (Ref:1612527)   #2
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I presume you/the gentleman writing the thesis have contacted the FIA?
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Old 17 May 2006, 12:39 (Ref:1612531)   #3
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This might be a starting point..... http://www.fia.com/sport/Regulations/circuitregs.html

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Old 17 May 2006, 13:56 (Ref:1612600)   #4
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Ian, I have not. I'm unaware the the other guy has.

Thanks a lot ScotsBrutesFan. That's perfect I hope. Thanks mate.
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Old 17 May 2006, 19:17 (Ref:1612826)   #5
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From all indications, those regulations are flexible.
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Old 17 May 2006, 22:12 (Ref:1613037)   #6
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They are. For both Bahrain & Shanghai Tilke broke rules about the length of straights. As long as it is shown to be safe I think you can get away with most things.
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Old 18 May 2006, 02:34 (Ref:1613118)   #7
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Actually I read that:
- the maximum permitted lenght for straight sections of track is 2km
- It is recommeneded that the lenght of any new circuits should not exceed 7km
All of Tilke's tracks adhere to that.

I sent the link to the guy, and he says thankyou.
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Old 18 May 2006, 23:11 (Ref:1613863)   #8
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Actually I read that:
- the maximum permitted lenght for straight sections of track is 2km
- It is recommeneded that the lenght of any new circuits should not exceed 7km
All of Tilke's tracks adhere to that.

I sent the link to the guy, and he says thankyou.
Sorry, I may have ben wrong. I could have sworn that for F1 circuit the recomended maximum straight length should be no more than 1km. My bad!
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Old 19 May 2006, 19:05 (Ref:1614403)   #9
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I believe it used to be. But clearly the FIA saw fit to extend that. Probably to accomodate Mr. Tilke

I think however that you'll find many of the FIA's rules and regs are with reference to the racing line, and not the geometrical shape of the track. Any corner which can be considered easily flat out would be regarded as a 'straight', which means that by the FIA definition, Indianapolis has the longest 'straight' in Formula One at around 1800 metres IIRC (from T11 to T1).

It is true that circuits must be grade 1 to host Formula One races. They must be grade 1T for F1 testing.
Most circuits which would be considered as 'international' are Grade 2 or above.

The grading is flexible, i.e. a circuit can obtain special dispensation to host races that it would not normally be permitted to host with its grade level, provided some temporary adjustments are made.
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Old 20 May 2006, 00:25 (Ref:1614573)   #10
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A corner is defined as:
A change of direction of at least 45 degrees with a radius less then 300m.

Wonder what the radius of Indy's corners are?
(As I just typed that i thought to myself 'Google Earth')
I got 247m??

Then again, it says that that's a definition for a corner for the corner after the strating straight. Refer to 'Appendix O, 7.7'
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Old 20 May 2006, 01:46 (Ref:1614603)   #11
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Now what I want to know is what dispensations have been made for the Nordschleife to host those "touring car" races (Those cars are practically GT1s in the extreme.). The Dottinger Hohe alone is nearly 3km long.
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Old 20 May 2006, 03:17 (Ref:1614625)   #12
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All those requirements are for 'new circuits'.
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Old 20 May 2006, 23:22 (Ref:1615255)   #13
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Yes, I'm aware of that. However, they are also applied, I believe, to circuits that the specific championship has not previously raced on, and thus that have not been approved for events of that championship.
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Old 20 May 2006, 23:38 (Ref:1615262)   #14
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It is a lot easier for non-F1 series to get the go-ahead than others.
The nurburgring is not wildly unsafe, at least not like it used to be. It meets minimum specs on track border widths, kerbing, first line protection etc. On all the fastest approaches there is some form of gravel trap.
It might be very long, but it's really not all that unsafe.

The special requirements for the 24h race are likely to be more in the form of secondary safety aspects such as adequate marshalling, ambulances and emergency helicopters, spectator control etc.
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Old 26 May 2006, 13:22 (Ref:1619471)   #15
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look that: http://www.fia.com/sport/Regulations/circuitregs.html
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Old 26 May 2006, 18:57 (Ref:1619701)   #16
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That's already been posted.
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Old 26 May 2006, 20:36 (Ref:1619775)   #17
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Old 26 May 2006, 21:21 (Ref:1619807)   #18
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