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9 Mar 2007, 01:27 (Ref:1861957) | #1 | ||
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"New style" marshalling?/Midweek racing (merged)
See this thread and associated link. Evening races were hinted at a few years ago without result, but it seems there's an intention to go ahead, along with a "trial ... to potentially assess new ideas in trackside recovery/marshalling,"
Anyone know what that means? What views do we have? My thought is 'thin end of the wedge', but as always, I'm prepared to be proved wrong by anyone wiser/more knowledgeable. |
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If it works (from a getting the new punters through the gates and watching decent racing point-of-view) then I think it's possibly a good thing, 20-20 Cricket has worked well to this type of format (aimed at corporate/after-work/family groups, shorter blast of action than normal, etc). Roger Etcell & his team worked well on the Powertour package to publicise and promote it as I recall and they were well attended events (compared to current F3/GT meetings), so hopefully he can do something similar with this.
From a marshalling point of view, we've run Silverstone events (such as the EERC meetings) with the IOs calling whats happening and responding with the Land Rovers, backed up by a reduced number of flags/obs at key locations plus the circuit lights and that's worked ok, and I can't see these two Silverstone events being any different. However, I don't know how it'll work at Donington which doesn't have the response vehicle at every corner option like Silverstone unless something new comes along between now and August. But, this type of incident response has to be tried somewhere given the current marshalling situation, so I can understand it to a large extent. All part of developing the new breed of multi-tasking marshals. I can't make the first of the Silverstone dates given in MN but will be at the other two events to see what happens Al. |
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It's a nice thought that the BRDC can afford to hire their own circuit mid week but not at week ends. It all seems to expensive to me for what ammounts to 2-3 hours sport. i do not think it will happen.
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Marshalling with minimal numbers and fast reponse teams - can work, but only with well trained and experienced people. Semi pro workforce? Anybody had an availability form yet? |
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I think the key to it will be not how many marshals there are, but how many competitors turn up. It seems hard enough at the weekends to get a decent grid size. No one will pay to see half a dozen cars race in mid week. Will it be part of a championship or just an exhibition?. Well done for trying and i wish it well, lets see what happens.
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Midweek racing
Has anyone seen the recent article in motorsport news regarding midweek racing at Donington and Silverstone in august.Does anyone know whether these events will require marshals or whether midweek staff will be manning these events?If anyone has any information as to what is racing this would be greatly appreciated.
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9 Mar 2007, 12:47 (Ref:1862294) | #9 | |
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See this thread in National/Club forum.
I think the answer to your question is both. Midweek staff for the afternoon test session and normal volunteers for the evening's racing. |
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My earlier reply was my first thoughts, and given that this is the marshal's forum, from a marshal's point of view.
Thinking about it though, does'nt the whole concept rest on the meeting being run by people who can afford to take time off work. Or not be in regular work? Scrutes/race control/paramedics/docs/breakdown - basically the whole panoply of volunteers (reimbursed in some cases, but volunteers nonetheless) The other thing I read was that the target audience was local - but I know even circuit specific officials that will drive for many hours to get to a meeting. It must be assumed that the BRSCC as the club apparently contracted by Roger Etcell to run these meetings will have plan. I just hope that it has'nt involved some kind of financial risk to the club I was once strongly loyal to. Somebody in the BRSCC made some strange financial decisions in years past. They maybe need to be bold to have a future maybe, but.... Lets wait and see then what the plan will be when it's revealed on the new web site then, eh? I think (believe/know) they were the major club for training race officials through most of the 80's & 90's, maybe not now, but those same well trained officials are probably nearing the end of their (Mon-Fri) working life. So, might it be a kind of Dad's army of officials that will run these events. Don't panic Mr Mainwaring! {that might be joke lads & lasses, might not be} |
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No champinships involved. (hence no hassle over champinship regs etc ) Very much a mix and match of what classes of racers are interested. |
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As soon as the dates are out, I'll be volunteering.
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The BRDC was from what is usually a reliable source.
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Slap, bang in the middle of the holiday season. Not much option I suppose.
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the power of tenths!
Maybe Haymarket Publishing won't/can't acknowledge our existance & assistance, (like they have vested interest in their own commercial venture) but it seems Roger Etcell can - by joining and posting.
notice to lurkers, see, this deadly internet can be your friend His post here about power evenings the marshal specific bit From 9am to 3pm testing will be run under general circuit testing conditions the MSA permit will start from around 3pm. Marshals will be provided with benefits, we apprecaite this is a difficlut area and will work to secure correct levels. sign on about 1-2pm then? nice long lie, bit like Lydden |
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Who's Roger Ectell?
Is he BRSCC? Actually I'm warming to the idea of this evening racing! |
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Roger Etcell is the man from Motionworks, which is the motorsport marketing company responsible for putting these events together. He was previously behind the successful PowerTour initiative.
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